Episode Overview
Episode Summary

In this episode, Colin Nederkoorn, CEO and co-founder of Customer.io, takes us on a journey through his unconventional path from sales to becoming the leader of a globally recognized SaaS company. Colin shares how a quirky side project—booting Windows XP on Intel Macs—taught him to spot opportunities in tech and inspired his career pivot. He also reflects on building a successful remote-first company long before remote work became mainstream, the challenges of staying aligned as a distributed team, and the importance of connecting directly with customers. We discuss how Colin and his co-founder identified a gap in the marketing automation space, their iterative approach to product development, and the deliberate choices they made to grow sustainably without relying heavily on VC funding. Whether you're a startup founder, an aspiring CEO, or someone passionate about SaaS and entrepreneurship, this episode is packed with candid advice, inspiring stories, and practical lessons.

Episode Highlights
Episode Highlights
0:00

Welcome & Introduction  Scott introduces Colin Nederkoorn his journey from quirky projects to leading Customer.io.

3:00

Organizing the Windows XP on Mac Contest  Colin recalls a fun early career project that unexpectedly shaped his entrepreneurial mindset.

6:45

From Shipping Sales to Tech  How working in sales for a petrochemical shipping company helped Colin build the foundation for his tech career.

10:00

The Origin of Customer.io  Colin shares the real (non-Hollywood) story behind founding Customer.io and the problem they set out to solve.

15:30

Scaling Without Venture Capital  Why Colin chose a more deliberate path to growth and how Customer.io thrived without heavy VC backing.

20:00

Building a Fully Remote Company  Insights on running a distributed team since 2012, long before remote work became a trend.

25:30

Staying Customer-Centric  The importance of staying connected to customers, even as the company scales.

30:00

Rebranding for Growth  Colin discusses the decision to rebrand and how it aligned the product's capabilities with its market perception.

33:00

Lessons in Leadership  How Colin’s leadership style has evolved over the years and the skills he believes are vital for any CEO.

35:00

Advice for Aspiring Founders  Colin’s unconventional advice for founders: pick the right market and take a long-term approach to learning and growth. Key Takeaways: Opportunities are everywhere: Colin’s career pivot began with an unusual tech contest, proving the value of curiosity and initiative.Remote work requires structure: Aligning a distributed team means formalizing communication and creating deliberate rituals.Choose your market wisely: A strong, growing market is the foundation for long-term success.Iterative growth beats pressure for fast wins: Colin’s journey shows that patience and sustainability often pay off more than rapid scaling.Notable Quote:  "If you pick a good market, you can solve a lot of the other problems. But if you pick a small or tough market, those problems are near impossible to overcome."

About the Guest
About the Guest
Colin Nederkoorn
Colin Nederkoorn
Founder & CEO, Customer.io

Colin provides insights into the challenges of scaling, the significance of picking the right market, and how he has evolved as a CEO over a decade of leading Customer.io.